Comments on: WHY SAUDI ARABIA DOES NOT SUPPORT A STRIKE ON IRAN

By: Dan cooper

Dan cooper — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:16:24 +0000

stevieb

“The real problem is the Israel lobby and ZOG. It’s not a conspiracy theory. It’s a threat to the entire plane.”

You are absolutely right.

Israel lobby is the root of all evil.

They are the reason why USA cannot have rapprochement with Iran.

They are the reason why USA has lost nearly 5ooo soldiers in Iraq.

They are the reason why Israel can occupy Palestine by force.

They are the reason why Israel can murder Palestinians with impunity.

They are the reason why Israel can get away with murder.

They are the reason why Israel can violate international law.

They are the reason why Israel can violate UN resolutions without accountability.

They are the reason why there is so much hatred against the USA.

They are the reason why there will be no peace in Middle East.

They are the reason why there will be a war against Iran.

It is about time that we have a proper debate about the role of “Israel lobby” towards Iran in this forum.

I would like to askBBen Katcher to help us in this regard.

By: Eric A. Brill

Eric A. Brill — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 06:10:57 +0000

Just when I think Michael Slackman is the hand’s-down living-in-a-parallel-universe Iran-hater at the NYT, along comes Ethan Bronner to announce that the competition is far from over:

“[The US and Israel] still find it useful to note that Israel is preparing for a strike and that its government includes some real hawks. This is a point American officials made to China recently to persuade it to join the sanctions regime.”

I’ll bet the Chinese were shocked, shocked to learn that Israel has hawks. Undoubtedly that had quite an effect on their view of sanctions. I’ll bet they’re reaching for their pens. (“Now where did we put that sanctions resolution the Americans sent us? Sure hope we didn’t throw it away.”)

“The Israelis have made recent high-level visits to China and Russia in an effort to bring officials there aboard.”

Oh, how did those talks go?

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Ethan Bronner, NYT, March 4:

“Hoping Sanctions Work But Readying Gas Masks”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/05/world/middleeast/05mideast.html

By: Calm

Calm — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 05:45:03 +0000

I think that all the threats is simply an attempt to bankrupt the Iranian economy until such time as the oil/gas piplines are built and contracts signed with Europe for U.S. oil giants to supply energy.

With all the threats, nobody will invest in Iran and thus Iran is unable to provide funding for the Nubucco pipeline.

It is a Win-Win for Israel because after they call off the dogs of war, they will be seen as “Peace Makers”.

Calm

By: kooshy

kooshy — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:05:21 +0000

The real problem that US are currently facing is not Iran, or says China and UN. Often observers of US political atmosphere realize the real problem t with an American global view is the perception of its policy apparatus and its intellectuals, that is been generated from an extended period of living in a House of Mirrors of their own self-made Amusing Park,

The reason that the Saudis are against any further antagonizing of Iran by the west, simply lies in their fear of a backlash not by Iran but rather by their own Arab street who are ruled by illegitimate governments.
Current Saudi Arabia’s regime and its Arab allied governments of Egypt and Jordan are holding power on a thin thread that is been hanged to US and not to their own population. Therefore the Saudi government and their Arab allies are legitimately worried that if further anatomization of Iran doesn’t produce a clear victory by the west with regard to Iran’s standing with the Arab and Muslim street. Due to multi, reasons of economic, military, and political if the outcome of further pressure by the west does not produce a clear victory for them, it eventually will result to a reduction of US presence in the region, in that case they legitimately fear their own governance days will be numbered.

By: stevieb

stevieb — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:38:31 +0000

The real problem is the Israel lobby and ZOG. It’s not a conspiracy theory. It’s a threat to the entire planet.

By: Eric A. Brill

Eric A. Brill — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:30:49 +0000

By the way, how’s this for a “crisis” headline, from the March 4 NYT?

“Hoping Sanctions Work But Readying Gas Masks”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/05/world/middleeast/05mideast.html

By: Eric A. Brill

Eric A. Brill — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:37:10 +0000

Alan,

“Eric – I’m pleased to report Walid Khalidi remains as lucid and eloquent as ever, aged 85. Here he is giving the keynote address at a UN meeting on Palestine a couple of months ago:”

Thanks. My apology for mixing him up with the young whippersnapper, Rashid. The (imagined) reports of his death were greatly exaggerated.

By: Ra'ad

Ra'ad — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:35:06 +0000

The Black Swans in West Asia are the intentions of Israel.
Are Israel’s arsenal just to secure it from its eviscerated neighbours? Its ca 400 tactical nuclear weapons, their intercontinental Jericho ballistic missiles with range of 11500 km and its airforce which is twice the size of UK’s and its ca 3 million army to protect its borders? – from Lebanon and Syria? No, what is brewing in West Asia is an invading Israeli army that will punch through the 15 km gap across the Gulf of Aqaba and will storm to Saudi and Kuwaiti oil fields and there is nothing, NOTHING anyone can do about it. The only people who could have been able to put up resistance are the Iraqis (now neutralised), Iranians and the Pakistanis (who have been already neutralised by Israel’s submarine-borne second strike capabilities). Maybe – just maybe – the Saudi’s are cottoning on to the fact that this imbalance of forces in the middle east is just inviting a much greater risk of calamity that a theoretical Iranian nuclear weapons programme.

By: Alan

Alan — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:33:30 +0000

Eric – I’m pleased to report Walid Khalidi remains as lucid and eloquent as ever, aged 85. Here he is giving the keynote address at a UN meeting on Palestine a couple of months ago:

http://www.palestine-studies.org/

By: Arnold Evans

Arnold Evans — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 05:12:46 +0000

Saudi Arabia is a US colony. As much as the Indian indirectly-ruled princely states were British colonies, Saudi Arabia was founded as a subject of the British Empire and that indirect rule was passed directly to the United States.

Saudi Arabia is no more or less independent that Egypt under King Farouk before Nasser assumed power.

So Saudi Arabia will not become independent if the United States strikes Iran. The United States will still pay a heavy price. Mostly that China and India will no longer trust the US as stewards of the Persian Gulf. The reason the Saudis oppose a US strike isn’t because the Saudi indirect-rule princes have some way to retaliate, but because if US rule is challenged, that will materialize as threats to the Saudi throne, and the luxurious trips to Aspen and Paris that come with that throne as long as Abdullah and his family continue to provide reliable servants for the US.