How about US-China rivalry today?

Maybe Clawson is an idiot after all. Iran does not need the US to flourish as an industrial power in its own right. The talent and resources obviously are to hand.
Germany was doing a great deal of business with Iran, until Aipac and its stooges in the US Congress intervened.

“3) It is not just Iran! Eversince 1970’s the West has been trying very hard to make the third world believe that development and advancement in technology without the support of the West is IMPOSSIBLE. That has been their biggest weapon in forcing the peripheral countries into submission! What happens if Iran manages to make even MODEST advancements in technology against the will of the West? ”

this is the essence of Clawson’s argument, with respect to economic development:

“development and advancement in economic/capitalist/financial/international trade without the support of the West is IMPOSSIBLE.”

Clawson did his research during the reign of the shah, when Iran WAS the puppet of the US and Israel, one might say almost as much of a piggy bank for Israel, at least, as Iran was a piggy bank for Great Britain from 1914 to 1953. US and Israel had extensive investment in and involvement with Iran in financial, commercial, and especially military armaments procurement. Clawson argues that US (Western) penetration of a nation is the touchstone, the reality that makes possible a nations emergence as a global capitalist power.

As Clawson explains, the style of capitalism he considered, the Marxist definitions NOT Adam Smith’s Wealth of Nations version, by its nature demands constant expansion and creates a SOCIAL relationship of domination of the capitalist over the capitalized state.

Just as Pirouz 2 said with respect to technological development, so Iran seeks to do with its financial and economic development future: Iran seeks to develop itself according to Islamic Shari’ia principles. A core distinction between Shari’ia finance and the Marxist model, or the model of present-day global capitalism, in any event, is in the area of interest rates and collecting interest, and of central banking. These comments are merely pointing in the direction of where the differences lie. I am not sufficiently versed in economic theory to spell out the exact areas of conflict.

What I do know is that Obama’s nuclear statement, with its attendant threat to Iran, should be understood as the United States government waving a red flag declaring, “WE ARE BANKRUPT!” The nukes policy statement has less to do with Iran’s nuclear posture than with the US’s extremely serious financial illness and the implications of US economic depression on the dollar as the medium of exchange for a worldwide petro-dollar economy.

Several days ago Tim Geithner returned from a visit to China and said he would NOT pressure China to realign the valuation of its currency at this time. My guess is that Geithner’s main mission was to get China on board the Iran sanctions boat, China remained ambivalent, so Geithner is holding his thunder pending further developments.

The US desperately needs trade with Iran to survive, and make no mistake, the US economy is on a deathbed; I suspect the US is in worse shape than the depression. Zionism will not permit the US to permit Iran to function under a system that Rothschild would not be proud of. Be aware that Israel is a zionist project; as discussed with Jon Harrison, zionism is NOT the equivalent of Jewishness. Know also that the wealthiest 2000 zionists in the world have the ability to compel the US economy to do its bidding. (nb. I’ve never read Protocols of Elders of Zion; I’m just gathering facts and making connections and observations.) Among other things, zionism is posited on the predatory capitalist model: Herzl’s zionist vision did not get off the ground for ten years, until the Rothschilds invested in the vision and the land.

I hope this little community that is developing can explore together, and educate one another, in the nexus between Iran-nukes and Iran’s form of capitalist development. The fact that the Clarion Fund is producing another media assault on Iran,
http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2010/03/27/clarion-fund-mystery-donor-to-inject-millions-in-november-elections-throgh-iran-mushroom-cloud-propaganda-film/
the advertising of which resembles the alarming mushroom cloud image the Leveretts used on the Iran as Nuclear Target thread, makes me think there is an all out effort to “Shock and Awe” Iran into economic submission (read Naomi Klein, “Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism”). Clarion Fund is the group that finances the zionist website AISH.com and that financed the production and distribution of the hateful DVD ‘Obsession’ about a year ago.

Three foolish US Senators spoke at the Aipac conference, and called for a crushing American military attack on Iran. These idiots were: Chuch Schumer (D- New York), Evan Bayh (D – Indiana), and Lindsey Graham (R – South Carolina). Aipac stooges in the US Congress are so numerous, it would be an effort to list them all.

There are many idiots in the foreign policy arena, who are intelligent. Does Clawson think Iran is unwilling to do business with western business interests? Why all the malarkey about “capitalism” as if this were still the 1960s?

Winep promotes the insane “Greater Israel” notion, and pushes propaganda along the lines of: Why do the Palestinians need to have Palestine, when they can just hijack Jordan? King Hussein was always worried the Israelis would try to drive the remaining Palestinians out of the West Bank and into Jordan. The truly loony Christian Zionists promote this idea.

I first encountered Clawson shortly after I had viewed “Gandhi,” the grand film with Ben Kingsley. Clawson is a tall, lanky red-head (carrots and sticks!) and I was struck with his physical as well as ideological resemblance to Gen. Reginald Dyer, commander of Her Majesty’s troops when they fired upon civilians trapped in Jallianwalla garden in Amritsar.

American military and foreign policy leaders in the late 1940s recognized that Israel was or could easily be a millstone around the neck of the US, weakening America. The potential problem is grown exponentially, and “protecting” Israel is costing the US tens of billions of dollars per year. This fact, of course, is carefully concealed from the ignorant mass of the American public.

Israel needs to blend into its neighborhood now. Not starting in twenty years, or thity. Now. This means accepting the Arab League peace plan. (With some changes.)

Is Patrick Clawson an idiot? Normal relations between the US and Iran would be extremely beneficial to American business interests. The perversion of US policy toward Iran is the continuing achievement of Aipac and other organizations openly working against the best interests of the American people.