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		<title>By: Eford</title>
		<link>http://www.raceforiran.com/the-real-strategic-challenge-that-turkey-and-iran-pose-to-israel#comment-11264</link>
		<dc:creator>Eford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 05:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@christopher

Thanks for the clarification, Chris.

I was beginning to think this was just another online gathering of paranoid Jew-Haters. 

Your use of CAPITALIZATION gives your argument credence (and gusto!) and has swayed me to your way of thinking.

Regards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@christopher</p>
<p>Thanks for the clarification, Chris.</p>
<p>I was beginning to think this was just another online gathering of paranoid Jew-Haters. </p>
<p>Your use of CAPITALIZATION gives your argument credence (and gusto!) and has swayed me to your way of thinking.</p>
<p>Regards.</p>
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		<title>By: Eford</title>
		<link>http://www.raceforiran.com/the-real-strategic-challenge-that-turkey-and-iran-pose-to-israel#comment-11225</link>
		<dc:creator>Eford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 19:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...&quot;unchallenged freedom of military action in the Middle East&quot;?

That must have happened while I was in the shower, because I seem to have missed it.

The US is concurrently bombing Iraq, Afghanistan, and Yemen. 
Russia is trampling on Chechnya, Georgia, and the rest of it&#039;s neighbors. 
Turkey stomps gleefully on the Kurds. 
Iran funds Militants across the ME. 
Sudan&#039;s Muslim government machetes a million of it&#039;s Christians and Animist citizens. 
Etc, etc....

At most, all of the above countries get a pro-forma UN scalding or, as with Iran, an empty threat of ineffectual sanctions.

Israel shot 9 guys on a boat after the guys attacked them with bats and the entire world condemns it, expresses it&#039;s unfathomable outrage, and howls for an international inquiry.

The same was true in 67&#039;, 72&#039;, and during the bloodbath of the first &quot;Intifada&quot;.

The world&#039;s obsession with anything Israeli has caused Israel&#039;s inept leaders to act with suicidal and irresponsible restraint.

Any country with a healthy sense of self-preservation would have carpet-bombed Lebanon and turned Gaza into a Dresdenesque inferno. 

I&#039;m not sure what planet you live on, but the only country in the world that does not seem to enjoy &quot;unchallenged freedom of military action&quot; is Israel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;&#8221;unchallenged freedom of military action in the Middle East&#8221;?</p>
<p>That must have happened while I was in the shower, because I seem to have missed it.</p>
<p>The US is concurrently bombing Iraq, Afghanistan, and Yemen.<br />
Russia is trampling on Chechnya, Georgia, and the rest of it&#8217;s neighbors.<br />
Turkey stomps gleefully on the Kurds.<br />
Iran funds Militants across the ME.<br />
Sudan&#8217;s Muslim government machetes a million of it&#8217;s Christians and Animist citizens.<br />
Etc, etc&#8230;.</p>
<p>At most, all of the above countries get a pro-forma UN scalding or, as with Iran, an empty threat of ineffectual sanctions.</p>
<p>Israel shot 9 guys on a boat after the guys attacked them with bats and the entire world condemns it, expresses it&#8217;s unfathomable outrage, and howls for an international inquiry.</p>
<p>The same was true in 67&#8242;, 72&#8242;, and during the bloodbath of the first &#8220;Intifada&#8221;.</p>
<p>The world&#8217;s obsession with anything Israeli has caused Israel&#8217;s inept leaders to act with suicidal and irresponsible restraint.</p>
<p>Any country with a healthy sense of self-preservation would have carpet-bombed Lebanon and turned Gaza into a Dresdenesque inferno. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what planet you live on, but the only country in the world that does not seem to enjoy &#8220;unchallenged freedom of military action&#8221; is Israel.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
		<link>http://www.raceforiran.com/the-real-strategic-challenge-that-turkey-and-iran-pose-to-israel#comment-11140</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 16:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joao C,

lol. They showed the speech in full and you can watch the footage of the 22nd of Bahman rallies. I won&#039;t ask you to open your eyes, you can&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joao C,</p>
<p>lol. They showed the speech in full and you can watch the footage of the 22nd of Bahman rallies. I won&#8217;t ask you to open your eyes, you can&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://www.raceforiran.com/the-real-strategic-challenge-that-turkey-and-iran-pose-to-israel#comment-11138</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 16:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Castellio:

Alan… “and we know Obama does not like to be seen as adopting Israel’s position merely because it is Israel’s position.”

We know that?

-----------

??

(three strikes and you&#039;re out by the way)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Castellio:</p>
<p>Alan… “and we know Obama does not like to be seen as adopting Israel’s position merely because it is Israel’s position.”</p>
<p>We know that?</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>??</p>
<p>(three strikes and you&#8217;re out by the way)</p>
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		<title>By: Joao C</title>
		<link>http://www.raceforiran.com/the-real-strategic-challenge-that-turkey-and-iran-pose-to-israel#comment-11135</link>
		<dc:creator>Joao C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 15:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liz aka Afsaneh,

My &quot;biased&quot; world view simply asks that you juxtapose news from various sources. To put images side by side and compare and think straight. You&#039;re the one who always brings up the GM and put me in a position of defending them. The fact remains that Khomeini&#039;s speech was cut short whether they showed it or not (they didn&#039;t) by the same people who attacked Khomeini&#039;s home in Jamaran on Tasua (baton and chain holding Basijis). 

Looks like I&#039;ve hit a soft spot with the diversity charge. You know fully well that supporters of the IRI are not diverse. They don&#039;t come from various backgrounds as evident in the staged rallies where they hold government made posters. You are hurt that the GM has the support of a wide range of Iranians inside and outside of Iran. Whether I&#039;m Iranian or Brazilian or Brazilian-Iranian or just married to an Iranian is not relevant to the discussion at hand. If someone doesn&#039;t write me back it shows they&#039;re out of jibberish to spit out and pollute the Internet with. You, whoever you are, with whatever ID, are a minority. Accept it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liz aka Afsaneh,</p>
<p>My &#8220;biased&#8221; world view simply asks that you juxtapose news from various sources. To put images side by side and compare and think straight. You&#8217;re the one who always brings up the GM and put me in a position of defending them. The fact remains that Khomeini&#8217;s speech was cut short whether they showed it or not (they didn&#8217;t) by the same people who attacked Khomeini&#8217;s home in Jamaran on Tasua (baton and chain holding Basijis). </p>
<p>Looks like I&#8217;ve hit a soft spot with the diversity charge. You know fully well that supporters of the IRI are not diverse. They don&#8217;t come from various backgrounds as evident in the staged rallies where they hold government made posters. You are hurt that the GM has the support of a wide range of Iranians inside and outside of Iran. Whether I&#8217;m Iranian or Brazilian or Brazilian-Iranian or just married to an Iranian is not relevant to the discussion at hand. If someone doesn&#8217;t write me back it shows they&#8217;re out of jibberish to spit out and pollute the Internet with. You, whoever you are, with whatever ID, are a minority. Accept it.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
		<link>http://www.raceforiran.com/the-real-strategic-challenge-that-turkey-and-iran-pose-to-israel#comment-11112</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 03:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joao C,

That was the footage of Fars News, the &quot;biased&quot; and &quot;ultraconservative&quot; enemy of humanity and in the footage you can hear Hassan Khomeini loud and clear. The footage shown on Iranian TV was the same, only the volume of the protestors chanting slogans was turned down not that of Hassan Khomeini. The opposite of what you say is true. In fact, many are saying that IRIB was &quot;unfairly biased&quot; towards Hassan Khomeini. The rest of what you say is infected with the same biased world view. The popularity of the IR of Iran can not be denied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joao C,</p>
<p>That was the footage of Fars News, the &#8220;biased&#8221; and &#8220;ultraconservative&#8221; enemy of humanity and in the footage you can hear Hassan Khomeini loud and clear. The footage shown on Iranian TV was the same, only the volume of the protestors chanting slogans was turned down not that of Hassan Khomeini. The opposite of what you say is true. In fact, many are saying that IRIB was &#8220;unfairly biased&#8221; towards Hassan Khomeini. The rest of what you say is infected with the same biased world view. The popularity of the IR of Iran can not be denied.</p>
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		<title>By: AFSANEH</title>
		<link>http://www.raceforiran.com/the-real-strategic-challenge-that-turkey-and-iran-pose-to-israel#comment-11105</link>
		<dc:creator>AFSANEH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 02:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JOAO.C
I have been following your comments for a long time. I have a few points for you.

1- you can say whatever you want, I know that you are an Iranian, but if you are really a Brazilian who is this passionate about the greens in Iran, I think you should open a &quot;Mousavi Campsign in Brazil&quot;, to compete with Lula, I am 100% sure that you will find significant irregularities in the Brazilain elections and finally figure out that Lula came to power as a result of &quot;fraud&quot;!!

2- When people don&#039;t answer back to your comments the most likely reason is that probably they don&#039;t find your comments worthy of their time and effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JOAO.C<br />
I have been following your comments for a long time. I have a few points for you.</p>
<p>1- you can say whatever you want, I know that you are an Iranian, but if you are really a Brazilian who is this passionate about the greens in Iran, I think you should open a &#8220;Mousavi Campsign in Brazil&#8221;, to compete with Lula, I am 100% sure that you will find significant irregularities in the Brazilain elections and finally figure out that Lula came to power as a result of &#8220;fraud&#8221;!!</p>
<p>2- When people don&#8217;t answer back to your comments the most likely reason is that probably they don&#8217;t find your comments worthy of their time and effort.</p>
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		<title>By: Castellio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Castellio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 21:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liz, why can&#039;t they attack without US support? The US would have to support them after the fact anyway. Perhaps the question is better framed this way: Can Israel be blackmailing the US through the positioning of its nuclear attack subs?

This is a new thought for me. I had always assumed that they were hand in glove, sometimes pretending distance. Phil Weiss says there is distance. Is there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liz, why can&#8217;t they attack without US support? The US would have to support them after the fact anyway. Perhaps the question is better framed this way: Can Israel be blackmailing the US through the positioning of its nuclear attack subs?</p>
<p>This is a new thought for me. I had always assumed that they were hand in glove, sometimes pretending distance. Phil Weiss says there is distance. Is there?</p>
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		<title>By: Joao C</title>
		<link>http://www.raceforiran.com/the-real-strategic-challenge-that-turkey-and-iran-pose-to-israel#comment-11088</link>
		<dc:creator>Joao C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 20:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Liz and Kamran and Iranian@Iran

The clip in the Fars News link is not the clip shown on News Network. On News Network they were showing footage of people walking about and various shots of walls and flowers and occasional cuts to Khomeini&#039;s grandon and his audio was turned WAY down. This didn&#039;t happen when Ahmadinejad and Khamenei were speaking. I said the Fars news link proves MY point because they admit his speech was cut short. And if you live in Iran you would have to live under the rock right now not to know that the general public perceived this as a slight on Khomeini&#039;s legacy. I bet you folks were first in line to shed crocodile tears over Khomeini&#039;s torn photo scenario. IRIB raised hell over that. But staging a group of hoodlums to prevent Khomeini&#039;s grandson from speaking is somehow not disrespectful to the late Leader. These were the same folks who attacked Khomeini&#039;s house on Tasua (the night before Ashura) with batons and chains and beat ordinary people and destroyed Khomeini&#039;s Jamaran home. The videos are still on youtube. 

The problem with you folks is that you fail to see the diversity in the GM. Diversity of people is what will eventually overthrow the hardliners in power. Just as it was the diversity of the crowds that overthrew the Shah. It was when the nationalists, the communists and the technocrats, the seculars and the religious bazaris rallied behind one leader (Khomeini) that the Shah was overthrown. This diversity exists in the GM and NOT in the so-called supporters of those in power.

From religious standpoint, out of all the Grand Ayatollahs only two support Ahmadinejad and were even willing to see him. More and more Grand Ayatollahs are siding with the people and the GM with each of the regime&#039;s misteps. Their religious followers aren&#039;t exactly secular northern Tehranis you claim make up the GM. And their religious credentials far outweight that of the SL.

On the artistic front, a great majority of acclaimed Iranian filmmakers support the GM. From the liberals like Jafar Panahi, Bahram Bayzayi, Abbas Kiarostami to conservatives like Majid Majidi, Ebrahim Hatamikia, Ahmadreza Darvish to the ultra conservative Mohammad Nourizad. Nourizad was a close ally of Khamenei up until the election unrest. At which point he wrote two critical letters and was put in prison and is still in prison. Perhaps you should read his letters. 

On the ordinary people front, just look at the footage from the GM rallies of Khordad 25 and compare them to footage of pro-regime rallies. The diversity is in the GM rallies, where men and women, young and old, religious and secular, chadoris and bad-hijabis, rich and poor, educated and uneducated walk side by side. You don&#039;t have this diversity in your staged rallies, do you?! That&#039;s what happens with staged rallier, everyone holds the same posters and everyone looks the same!

Even on the political front, you now have the principalists such and Motahari, Larijani and Ghalibaf, the progressives like Rafsanjani and the gang, and the reformers from Khatami to Mousavi and Karoubi all against the Ahmadinejad government. 

Better get used to the idea folks. Ahmadinejad is on his way out and he may or may not take down Khamenei with him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Liz and Kamran and Iranian@Iran</p>
<p>The clip in the Fars News link is not the clip shown on News Network. On News Network they were showing footage of people walking about and various shots of walls and flowers and occasional cuts to Khomeini&#8217;s grandon and his audio was turned WAY down. This didn&#8217;t happen when Ahmadinejad and Khamenei were speaking. I said the Fars news link proves MY point because they admit his speech was cut short. And if you live in Iran you would have to live under the rock right now not to know that the general public perceived this as a slight on Khomeini&#8217;s legacy. I bet you folks were first in line to shed crocodile tears over Khomeini&#8217;s torn photo scenario. IRIB raised hell over that. But staging a group of hoodlums to prevent Khomeini&#8217;s grandson from speaking is somehow not disrespectful to the late Leader. These were the same folks who attacked Khomeini&#8217;s house on Tasua (the night before Ashura) with batons and chains and beat ordinary people and destroyed Khomeini&#8217;s Jamaran home. The videos are still on youtube. </p>
<p>The problem with you folks is that you fail to see the diversity in the GM. Diversity of people is what will eventually overthrow the hardliners in power. Just as it was the diversity of the crowds that overthrew the Shah. It was when the nationalists, the communists and the technocrats, the seculars and the religious bazaris rallied behind one leader (Khomeini) that the Shah was overthrown. This diversity exists in the GM and NOT in the so-called supporters of those in power.</p>
<p>From religious standpoint, out of all the Grand Ayatollahs only two support Ahmadinejad and were even willing to see him. More and more Grand Ayatollahs are siding with the people and the GM with each of the regime&#8217;s misteps. Their religious followers aren&#8217;t exactly secular northern Tehranis you claim make up the GM. And their religious credentials far outweight that of the SL.</p>
<p>On the artistic front, a great majority of acclaimed Iranian filmmakers support the GM. From the liberals like Jafar Panahi, Bahram Bayzayi, Abbas Kiarostami to conservatives like Majid Majidi, Ebrahim Hatamikia, Ahmadreza Darvish to the ultra conservative Mohammad Nourizad. Nourizad was a close ally of Khamenei up until the election unrest. At which point he wrote two critical letters and was put in prison and is still in prison. Perhaps you should read his letters. </p>
<p>On the ordinary people front, just look at the footage from the GM rallies of Khordad 25 and compare them to footage of pro-regime rallies. The diversity is in the GM rallies, where men and women, young and old, religious and secular, chadoris and bad-hijabis, rich and poor, educated and uneducated walk side by side. You don&#8217;t have this diversity in your staged rallies, do you?! That&#8217;s what happens with staged rallier, everyone holds the same posters and everyone looks the same!</p>
<p>Even on the political front, you now have the principalists such and Motahari, Larijani and Ghalibaf, the progressives like Rafsanjani and the gang, and the reformers from Khatami to Mousavi and Karoubi all against the Ahmadinejad government. </p>
<p>Better get used to the idea folks. Ahmadinejad is on his way out and he may or may not take down Khamenei with him.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 20:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Israel can&#039;t attack without US support and Iran will attack the US in retaliation if the Zionists attack Iran.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israel can&#8217;t attack without US support and Iran will attack the US in retaliation if the Zionists attack Iran.</p>
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