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		<title>By: SEO</title>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 20:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan - I think the way the debate is conducted is flawed.  Generally people are pro-Ahmadinejad or pro-Green.  This misses the key point.  Iran&#039;s government is in effect crippled at the moment.  Nothing of any magnitude can be agreed.  Ahmadinejad and Rafsanjani are both right and both wrong (although Ahmadinejad is really a junior in this; the real battle is between Rafsanjani and Yazdi).  

Because of the complexities of the system, the only way it can work is by consensus.  There will be no progress until the consensus returns, or one side overthrows the other.  The hardliners are infinitely more capable of overthrowing any opposition within the system.  The wisest US short term policy would therefore be to promote reconciliation.  So I suppose you could say the US needs a policy of change within the regime, rather than regime change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan &#8211; I think the way the debate is conducted is flawed.  Generally people are pro-Ahmadinejad or pro-Green.  This misses the key point.  Iran&#8217;s government is in effect crippled at the moment.  Nothing of any magnitude can be agreed.  Ahmadinejad and Rafsanjani are both right and both wrong (although Ahmadinejad is really a junior in this; the real battle is between Rafsanjani and Yazdi).  </p>
<p>Because of the complexities of the system, the only way it can work is by consensus.  There will be no progress until the consensus returns, or one side overthrows the other.  The hardliners are infinitely more capable of overthrowing any opposition within the system.  The wisest US short term policy would therefore be to promote reconciliation.  So I suppose you could say the US needs a policy of change within the regime, rather than regime change.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan

I think you are either misreading the politics in Iran or perhaps you have misunderstood what I meant in general.

The biggest threat to Iran is not from within but from outside.

I also disagree with your comment regarding the green movement.

The green movement with help and assistance from CIA and Mossad could represent a real risk to the regime in the years to come.

The fact that Mousavi’s campaign was bankrolled by corrupt Hashemi-Rafsanjani should tell the Iranian people something about the green movement.

For the past 31 years, Ahmadinejad and Rafsanjani, have belonged to the same regime with more or less same ideology, the only difference between them is that Rafsanjani is corrupt and still hungry for power but Ahmadinejad has proved to be incorruptible.

Although the rift between them is now enormous but if the existence and survival of the regime as a whole, is threatened, they will compromise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan</p>
<p>I think you are either misreading the politics in Iran or perhaps you have misunderstood what I meant in general.</p>
<p>The biggest threat to Iran is not from within but from outside.</p>
<p>I also disagree with your comment regarding the green movement.</p>
<p>The green movement with help and assistance from CIA and Mossad could represent a real risk to the regime in the years to come.</p>
<p>The fact that Mousavi’s campaign was bankrolled by corrupt Hashemi-Rafsanjani should tell the Iranian people something about the green movement.</p>
<p>For the past 31 years, Ahmadinejad and Rafsanjani, have belonged to the same regime with more or less same ideology, the only difference between them is that Rafsanjani is corrupt and still hungry for power but Ahmadinejad has proved to be incorruptible.</p>
<p>Although the rift between them is now enormous but if the existence and survival of the regime as a whole, is threatened, they will compromise.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 11:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan - I don&#039;t necessarily agree with your analysis.  The biggest risk to stability in Iran now is whether the arch-conservatives can cement their influence over Khamenei at the expense of Rafsanjani and the reformists.  Many conservatives as well as reformists greatly fear that happening, because it could lead Iran into a very dark place.  In other words, the real risk to the regime is ultimately not the Green movement, it is those that can use it as an excuse to consolidate their grip on power.

The whole consensus style of government in Iran has broken down.  Until it is repaired, things will drift.  Khamenei has to put it back together.  In addition, Ahmadinejad is faced with having to introduce these new laws phasing out subsidies in April which are going to be deeply unpopular, and he will be under enormous pressure when he does so.  He could yet be the fall guy, or the subsidies issue could be the way to bring the consensus back.  But Khamenei has to walk the middle road or there could be big problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan &#8211; I don&#8217;t necessarily agree with your analysis.  The biggest risk to stability in Iran now is whether the arch-conservatives can cement their influence over Khamenei at the expense of Rafsanjani and the reformists.  Many conservatives as well as reformists greatly fear that happening, because it could lead Iran into a very dark place.  In other words, the real risk to the regime is ultimately not the Green movement, it is those that can use it as an excuse to consolidate their grip on power.</p>
<p>The whole consensus style of government in Iran has broken down.  Until it is repaired, things will drift.  Khamenei has to put it back together.  In addition, Ahmadinejad is faced with having to introduce these new laws phasing out subsidies in April which are going to be deeply unpopular, and he will be under enormous pressure when he does so.  He could yet be the fall guy, or the subsidies issue could be the way to bring the consensus back.  But Khamenei has to walk the middle road or there could be big problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 11:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WigWag - you&#039;re argument presupposes the US genuinely believes the Iranians are seeking nuclear weapons.  I would suggest they believe no such thing.  It&#039;s like the lawyer that knows the answers to the questions he asks.  The US can make the woolly assertions, demands and threats that it does, safe in the knowledge that when the issue is &quot;settled&quot; they can simply claim their clever policies dissuaded the Iranians.

It is becoming more and more important for the US to have a passive Iran with a full fuel cycle in order to counter Israeli strategic dominance.  Diplomatically, they can pull that off no problem.  All that is required is for the US to make the single concession of endorsing Iranian enrichment, and that can be done as part of a comprehensive agreement with a variety of Iranian concessions which they have already indicated they are prepared to make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WigWag &#8211; you&#8217;re argument presupposes the US genuinely believes the Iranians are seeking nuclear weapons.  I would suggest they believe no such thing.  It&#8217;s like the lawyer that knows the answers to the questions he asks.  The US can make the woolly assertions, demands and threats that it does, safe in the knowledge that when the issue is &#8220;settled&#8221; they can simply claim their clever policies dissuaded the Iranians.</p>
<p>It is becoming more and more important for the US to have a passive Iran with a full fuel cycle in order to counter Israeli strategic dominance.  Diplomatically, they can pull that off no problem.  All that is required is for the US to make the single concession of endorsing Iranian enrichment, and that can be done as part of a comprehensive agreement with a variety of Iranian concessions which they have already indicated they are prepared to make.</p>
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		<title>By: drewbreeze</title>
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		<dc:creator>drewbreeze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 05:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anti-Western sentiment at the time involved two distinct impulses: anti-imperialism in Leninist terms, and a critique of modernity in the Heidegerrian sense of philosophical critique. While there were also popular demands for social justice, what was missing from political discourse during the era was a serious consideration of the ethical requirements of democracy and human rights. 
Other events quickly followed: the seizure of the American embassy in Tehran, Saddam Hussein&#039;s military invasion of Iran, a cultural revolution, and the crushing of Marxist and other opposition groups. The revolution that Ayatollah Khomeini led was a populist one with little concern for fostering political pluralism and and little respect for diversity. Populist economic policies and the nationalization of economic assets and resources made the state the key actor on the scene, while the Iran-Iraq war of the 1980s further enhanced the new regime&#039;s efforts at social mobilization. Oil revenues led not only to state autonomy from civil society, it allowed the regime to expand its repressive apparatus and tighten its control over many aspects of society. 

Thirty years of Islamic fundamentalist rule, however, have generated significant political opposition throughout Iran. This has gradually coalesced into the Green Movement that has been on display since the June 2009 presidential election. In contrast to the Revolution of 1979, what the world has been watching for the past eight months is a movement that seeks a democratic transition to a government that respects pluralism and human rights. While this has been taking place, the focus of the U.S. government and most of the media remains on Iran&#039;s nuclear program and the possible dangers it poses for the world. 

Perhaps the Iranian regime&#039;s repression over the past eight months, replete with the deaths of about 100 people in the streets, further deaths due to torture and executions, mass arrests of thousands of opposition supporters, harsh prison sentences, and the banning of all opposition media, pales in comparison to the loss of life in neighboring Iraq. But this is the story of a people who have endured three decades of repression, fear, the squandering of their national interests, and the humiliation of their country by the likes of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. It might be hard to appreciate how widespread and deep-rooted is the discontent among freedom-seeking, peaceful Iranians with the current regime, but denial of this fact leads to distorted, ideologically skewed interpretations of Iranian politics and society. While Iranians certainly want to see diplomatic relations re-established between their country and the United States, they do not wish to see this happen at the price of ignoring systematic human rights violations, including the executions of political prisoners. The actions of this regime against its own people are tantamount to crimes against humanity, and those responsible for these crimes must one day be brought to justice.

Translated by Nader Hashemi.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tehranbureau/2010/02/akbar-ganji-on-post-imperialism-in-iran.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anti-Western sentiment at the time involved two distinct impulses: anti-imperialism in Leninist terms, and a critique of modernity in the Heidegerrian sense of philosophical critique. While there were also popular demands for social justice, what was missing from political discourse during the era was a serious consideration of the ethical requirements of democracy and human rights.<br />
Other events quickly followed: the seizure of the American embassy in Tehran, Saddam Hussein&#8217;s military invasion of Iran, a cultural revolution, and the crushing of Marxist and other opposition groups. The revolution that Ayatollah Khomeini led was a populist one with little concern for fostering political pluralism and and little respect for diversity. Populist economic policies and the nationalization of economic assets and resources made the state the key actor on the scene, while the Iran-Iraq war of the 1980s further enhanced the new regime&#8217;s efforts at social mobilization. Oil revenues led not only to state autonomy from civil society, it allowed the regime to expand its repressive apparatus and tighten its control over many aspects of society. </p>
<p>Thirty years of Islamic fundamentalist rule, however, have generated significant political opposition throughout Iran. This has gradually coalesced into the Green Movement that has been on display since the June 2009 presidential election. In contrast to the Revolution of 1979, what the world has been watching for the past eight months is a movement that seeks a democratic transition to a government that respects pluralism and human rights. While this has been taking place, the focus of the U.S. government and most of the media remains on Iran&#8217;s nuclear program and the possible dangers it poses for the world. </p>
<p>Perhaps the Iranian regime&#8217;s repression over the past eight months, replete with the deaths of about 100 people in the streets, further deaths due to torture and executions, mass arrests of thousands of opposition supporters, harsh prison sentences, and the banning of all opposition media, pales in comparison to the loss of life in neighboring Iraq. But this is the story of a people who have endured three decades of repression, fear, the squandering of their national interests, and the humiliation of their country by the likes of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. It might be hard to appreciate how widespread and deep-rooted is the discontent among freedom-seeking, peaceful Iranians with the current regime, but denial of this fact leads to distorted, ideologically skewed interpretations of Iranian politics and society. While Iranians certainly want to see diplomatic relations re-established between their country and the United States, they do not wish to see this happen at the price of ignoring systematic human rights violations, including the executions of political prisoners. The actions of this regime against its own people are tantamount to crimes against humanity, and those responsible for these crimes must one day be brought to justice.</p>
<p>Translated by Nader Hashemi.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 03:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 2007, when Bush realized that Iran is too powerful to be attacked militarily, he directed the National Endowment for Democracy (NED) agency, to set up a covert operation to divide Iranian people and to destabilise their government.

The charge of “Election rigging” and “nuclear weapons” are used as an excuse to brainwash the American people and the international public opinion and to justify imposing sanctions or even a military attack.

As long as Israel lobby remains in power in Washington, there will never be a policy change towards Iran.

In my opinion, Israel is the root of all the problems.

The western governments have destroyed Iraq and will destroy Iran for the sake and well-being of Israel.

USA and Israel are brainwashing and manipulating Iranian people.

Now, CIA and Mossad are using the green movement as a tool for their ultimate objective, which are a regime change and the establishment of a US/Israel poppet government in Iran.

The fact that Mousavi&#039;s campaign was bankrolled by corrupt Hashemi-Rafsanjani should tell the readers something.

Rafsanjani was president for 9 years. What did he do for Iran? We all know what he did for himself, he raped Iran of its resources, now out of power and desperate to get back into power, he is bankrolling Mosavi’s campaign.

Rafsanjani / Mousavi don&#039;t have a nationalistic agenda...they want to roll back the clock and go against the grain of the Islamic Republic and appease the west while providing anecdotal freedom to Iranians under the umbrella of reform...they want to continue to rape Iran of its resources.

There is not much difference between Ahmadinejad and Rafsanjani/mosavi except that Ahmadinejad is incorruptible.

He leads a &quot;modest&quot; life as president; he wanted to continue living in the same house in Tehran as his family had been living in, until his security advisers insisted that he move.

All the problems started four years ago when Ahmadinejad defeated Rafsanjani and immediately announced that he is fighting corruption.

His message was indirectly addressed to Rafsanjani and his gang in the government.
 
This was the time when a major rift appeared between Ahmadinejad and Rafsanjani the result of which we all witnessed in the June’s presidential debate.  

In my opinion, Iran needs a reform, not a revolution but knowing what the alternative would do to Iranian pride and nationalistic ambitions I would stick with Ahmadinejad until a proper opposition with a credible leader is formed.

I wish all Iranians to be able to challenge the system in a constructive manner by none violent demonstration and definitely without the help and assistance of USA and Israel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 2007, when Bush realized that Iran is too powerful to be attacked militarily, he directed the National Endowment for Democracy (NED) agency, to set up a covert operation to divide Iranian people and to destabilise their government.</p>
<p>The charge of “Election rigging” and “nuclear weapons” are used as an excuse to brainwash the American people and the international public opinion and to justify imposing sanctions or even a military attack.</p>
<p>As long as Israel lobby remains in power in Washington, there will never be a policy change towards Iran.</p>
<p>In my opinion, Israel is the root of all the problems.</p>
<p>The western governments have destroyed Iraq and will destroy Iran for the sake and well-being of Israel.</p>
<p>USA and Israel are brainwashing and manipulating Iranian people.</p>
<p>Now, CIA and Mossad are using the green movement as a tool for their ultimate objective, which are a regime change and the establishment of a US/Israel poppet government in Iran.</p>
<p>The fact that Mousavi&#8217;s campaign was bankrolled by corrupt Hashemi-Rafsanjani should tell the readers something.</p>
<p>Rafsanjani was president for 9 years. What did he do for Iran? We all know what he did for himself, he raped Iran of its resources, now out of power and desperate to get back into power, he is bankrolling Mosavi’s campaign.</p>
<p>Rafsanjani / Mousavi don&#8217;t have a nationalistic agenda&#8230;they want to roll back the clock and go against the grain of the Islamic Republic and appease the west while providing anecdotal freedom to Iranians under the umbrella of reform&#8230;they want to continue to rape Iran of its resources.</p>
<p>There is not much difference between Ahmadinejad and Rafsanjani/mosavi except that Ahmadinejad is incorruptible.</p>
<p>He leads a &#8220;modest&#8221; life as president; he wanted to continue living in the same house in Tehran as his family had been living in, until his security advisers insisted that he move.</p>
<p>All the problems started four years ago when Ahmadinejad defeated Rafsanjani and immediately announced that he is fighting corruption.</p>
<p>His message was indirectly addressed to Rafsanjani and his gang in the government.</p>
<p>This was the time when a major rift appeared between Ahmadinejad and Rafsanjani the result of which we all witnessed in the June’s presidential debate.  </p>
<p>In my opinion, Iran needs a reform, not a revolution but knowing what the alternative would do to Iranian pride and nationalistic ambitions I would stick with Ahmadinejad until a proper opposition with a credible leader is formed.</p>
<p>I wish all Iranians to be able to challenge the system in a constructive manner by none violent demonstration and definitely without the help and assistance of USA and Israel.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Harrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 02:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry folks, that should be &quot;scandal&quot; with an a.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry folks, that should be &#8220;scandal&#8221; with an a.</p>
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		<title>By: kooshy</title>
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		<dc:creator>kooshy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 02:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wig Wag : “Every senior official in the Obama Administration and Obama himself, have stated publicly that an Iranian nuclear weapon is unacceptable. How exactly do you think Obama is going to back away from those pronouncements? Do you really think it will be politically viable after two years of saying Iran won’t be allowed to develop nuclear weapons for the Administration to fall back on a deterrence strategy?” 

He will do the same thing GWB did with North Korea will bark for while and walks away and the US media and folks like yourself will spin it for US public that we won, same thing has started by VP Biden about Iraq prior to leaving in shame this summer, in past few days we are hearing that we now have won in Iraq great bravo us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wig Wag : “Every senior official in the Obama Administration and Obama himself, have stated publicly that an Iranian nuclear weapon is unacceptable. How exactly do you think Obama is going to back away from those pronouncements? Do you really think it will be politically viable after two years of saying Iran won’t be allowed to develop nuclear weapons for the Administration to fall back on a deterrence strategy?” </p>
<p>He will do the same thing GWB did with North Korea will bark for while and walks away and the US media and folks like yourself will spin it for US public that we won, same thing has started by VP Biden about Iraq prior to leaving in shame this summer, in past few days we are hearing that we now have won in Iraq great bravo us.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Harrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 02:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WigWag:

&quot;Surely occur&quot;? Nah, this administration isn&#039;t going to do it, for the reasons I stated. &quot;Painting himself into a corner&quot;? You don&#039;t know much about American politics, or the American public&#039;s attention span, if you think any American politician, especially one as talented as Barack Obama, is going get himself into that position. Unless it&#039;s a sex scandel, of course. But I really don&#039;t see a sex scandel in B.O.&#039;s future.

I&#039;m certain Obama won&#039;t recapitulate G.W.B&#039;s strategy.

I&#039;m trying to objectively assess the situation, based on my knowledge and experience. Could I be wrong? Sure. But I don&#039;t think so. I think the biggest weakness in your argument is that you are advocating for a particular position, whether you care to admit it or not. I have a preferred position that I&#039;d like to see the U.S. get to, but in the final analysis, I merely observe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WigWag:</p>
<p>&#8220;Surely occur&#8221;? Nah, this administration isn&#8217;t going to do it, for the reasons I stated. &#8220;Painting himself into a corner&#8221;? You don&#8217;t know much about American politics, or the American public&#8217;s attention span, if you think any American politician, especially one as talented as Barack Obama, is going get himself into that position. Unless it&#8217;s a sex scandel, of course. But I really don&#8217;t see a sex scandel in B.O.&#8217;s future.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m certain Obama won&#8217;t recapitulate G.W.B&#8217;s strategy.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m trying to objectively assess the situation, based on my knowledge and experience. Could I be wrong? Sure. But I don&#8217;t think so. I think the biggest weakness in your argument is that you are advocating for a particular position, whether you care to admit it or not. I have a preferred position that I&#8217;d like to see the U.S. get to, but in the final analysis, I merely observe.</p>
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