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		<title>By: picard</title>
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		<dc:creator>picard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 14:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Important essay and I followed you until the last paragraph.  

Where do you get the idea that &quot;classical diplomacy&quot; reduces to &quot;balance of power.&quot;  (You say Charles Freeman)  

While the current US approach to Iran is quite flawed, it&#039;s hardly the fount of wisdom to counsel we go back to what was indeed the cardinal flaw in US approaches to Iran since the Nixon/Kissinger years -- e.g., &quot;balance of power&quot; thinking.  (e.g., either having the Shah as our &quot;balancer&quot; ally against Saddam, or then having Saddam balance out Iran, or the Clinton approach of somehow having the GCC balance out Iran and Iraq....  

Diplomacy YES -- for a change.  But &quot;balance of power?&quot;  Soooooo 19th century.  :-}</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Important essay and I followed you until the last paragraph.  </p>
<p>Where do you get the idea that &#8220;classical diplomacy&#8221; reduces to &#8220;balance of power.&#8221;  (You say Charles Freeman)  </p>
<p>While the current US approach to Iran is quite flawed, it&#8217;s hardly the fount of wisdom to counsel we go back to what was indeed the cardinal flaw in US approaches to Iran since the Nixon/Kissinger years &#8212; e.g., &#8220;balance of power&#8221; thinking.  (e.g., either having the Shah as our &#8220;balancer&#8221; ally against Saddam, or then having Saddam balance out Iran, or the Clinton approach of somehow having the GCC balance out Iran and Iraq&#8230;.  </p>
<p>Diplomacy YES &#8212; for a change.  But &#8220;balance of power?&#8221;  Soooooo 19th century.  :-}</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kamran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kamran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 05:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The commissioning of Turkmen-Iran pipeline supplying gas from southern Turkmenistan (40 inch dia pipeline from Daulatabad to Khangiran) to norther Iran is a real blow not only to policies of America but also opens new avenues for Turkmenistan to find Southern outlets for its new gas discoveries. Russia can no more influence Turkmenistan gas exports if the Gas-Swap deals become a basis of Iran-Turkmenistan relationships relating to gas exports worldwide through pipelines of LNG terminals in the Persian Gulf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The commissioning of Turkmen-Iran pipeline supplying gas from southern Turkmenistan (40 inch dia pipeline from Daulatabad to Khangiran) to norther Iran is a real blow not only to policies of America but also opens new avenues for Turkmenistan to find Southern outlets for its new gas discoveries. Russia can no more influence Turkmenistan gas exports if the Gas-Swap deals become a basis of Iran-Turkmenistan relationships relating to gas exports worldwide through pipelines of LNG terminals in the Persian Gulf.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 20:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jon Harrison

I apologise. It wasn&#039;t my intention to make you feel that I was connecting your name to statements you haven&#039;t made or agree with. The &quot;@&quot; basically means that the comment is directed &quot;at&quot; someone, but I understand your concern.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jon Harrison</p>
<p>I apologise. It wasn&#8217;t my intention to make you feel that I was connecting your name to statements you haven&#8217;t made or agree with. The &#8220;@&#8221; basically means that the comment is directed &#8220;at&#8221; someone, but I understand your concern.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnH</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 19:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that Israel does not have  any real role to play strategically in US interests in Iran. Their role is more of a junior partner in the enterprise. Mossad provides certain useful services. And the &quot;existential threat&quot; meme helps build the case against Iran and, curiously enough, create fear and hatred among broad swaths of the US population that otherwise has no more in common with Israel than, say, with Romania.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that Israel does not have  any real role to play strategically in US interests in Iran. Their role is more of a junior partner in the enterprise. Mossad provides certain useful services. And the &#8220;existential threat&#8221; meme helps build the case against Iran and, curiously enough, create fear and hatred among broad swaths of the US population that otherwise has no more in common with Israel than, say, with Romania.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Harrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 18:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoever &quot;@Jon Harrison&quot; is, it&#039;d be better if you used a different online name. I don&#039;t want to be accused of writing what you wrote. I disagree with most of what you said. I would be happy to engage with you if you&#039;ll pick a different name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoever &#8220;@Jon Harrison&#8221; is, it&#8217;d be better if you used a different online name. I don&#8217;t want to be accused of writing what you wrote. I disagree with most of what you said. I would be happy to engage with you if you&#8217;ll pick a different name.</p>
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		<title>By: @Jon Harrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>@Jon Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 17:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree with you that it seems Israel has influence in US politics I do not believe that they control US policy. At least not with the objection of the US elites. That is at best it could be a convergence of interests. And the US listens to Israel as a client state in an important region. Don&#039;t get me wrong, Israel has done terrible things in the region, but the US has supported (and committed) far worse atrocities before and in other places. 

“U.S. is foregoing so many advantages that would otherwise accrue to itself.”

(I assume you mean eg working with Iran)

“Advantages” for the US is when it can advance itself on behalf of others. Such “advantages” are not compatible with the interests of others (ie sane, intelligent people). The reason the US is “foregoing” all &quot;opportunities&quot; is simply because nobody wants to work with the US on such terms. Remember that the US had and has good relationship with regimes that are corrupt and commit despicable crimes, Saddam and Saudi Arabia are two examples that comes to mind. If you want you could put Israel here and have an explanation to why the US easily can work with them. The policy that Israel is enforcing is hurting what for normal people would be be their long term interests ie living peacefully with their neighbours, while it is advancing US interests in the region.

I&#039;m keeping it short, there is of course a lot to be said on the matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree with you that it seems Israel has influence in US politics I do not believe that they control US policy. At least not with the objection of the US elites. That is at best it could be a convergence of interests. And the US listens to Israel as a client state in an important region. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, Israel has done terrible things in the region, but the US has supported (and committed) far worse atrocities before and in other places. </p>
<p>“U.S. is foregoing so many advantages that would otherwise accrue to itself.”</p>
<p>(I assume you mean eg working with Iran)</p>
<p>“Advantages” for the US is when it can advance itself on behalf of others. Such “advantages” are not compatible with the interests of others (ie sane, intelligent people). The reason the US is “foregoing” all &#8220;opportunities&#8221; is simply because nobody wants to work with the US on such terms. Remember that the US had and has good relationship with regimes that are corrupt and commit despicable crimes, Saddam and Saudi Arabia are two examples that comes to mind. If you want you could put Israel here and have an explanation to why the US easily can work with them. The policy that Israel is enforcing is hurting what for normal people would be be their long term interests ie living peacefully with their neighbours, while it is advancing US interests in the region.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m keeping it short, there is of course a lot to be said on the matter.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnH</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 16:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Wwouldn’t a higher oil price hurt the developing economies more than the US &amp; thugs?&quot; Agreed, but you have to look at who benefits, not who gets hurt. Sure, poor nations get royally screwed (when don&#039;t they?) But the beneficiaries are all those companies that made bets that most of the really cheap oil was gone. They invested in oil production costing $30 per barrel (Canadian tar sands) and up. If oil prices were responsive to today&#039;s oil glut, many of these investors would be wiped out and future supply would be in jeopardy.

It would not surprise me in the least if there were intervention in the markets, not just by the Saudis, but by Western governments, kind of a TARP for oil markets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Wwouldn’t a higher oil price hurt the developing economies more than the US &amp; thugs?&#8221; Agreed, but you have to look at who benefits, not who gets hurt. Sure, poor nations get royally screwed (when don&#8217;t they?) But the beneficiaries are all those companies that made bets that most of the really cheap oil was gone. They invested in oil production costing $30 per barrel (Canadian tar sands) and up. If oil prices were responsive to today&#8217;s oil glut, many of these investors would be wiped out and future supply would be in jeopardy.</p>
<p>It would not surprise me in the least if there were intervention in the markets, not just by the Saudis, but by Western governments, kind of a TARP for oil markets.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Harrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 13:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very insightful indeed. The entire business is just so depressing, in that the U.S. is foregoing so many advantages that would otherwise accrue to itself. And why is that? Because of Israeli influence over the U.S. government. It&#039;s a sin, a crime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very insightful indeed. The entire business is just so depressing, in that the U.S. is foregoing so many advantages that would otherwise accrue to itself. And why is that? Because of Israeli influence over the U.S. government. It&#8217;s a sin, a crime.</p>
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		<title>By: @JohnH</title>
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		<dc:creator>@JohnH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 11:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very insightful. 

Two things. 

There Iranian oil bourse should perhaps be taken into consideration?

&quot;Saudi Arabia may have found a way to defeat the liberalized trading system for oil and to maintain high prices in periods of excess supply,&quot;

You assume that this is a decision that Saudi Arabia can take. Sorry but they (Arabs) and especially Saudis are politically pathetic. They have no real say in important matters (perhaps only how they may kill each other). I hardly believe that if the US didn&#039;t want higher price than SA wouldn&#039;t have found any &quot;loopholes&quot;. This brings us to my second point. The high prices if I am not mistaken is hitting poor nations (and people, eg in US) foremost. Considering all, wouldn&#039;t a higher oil price hurt the developing economies more than the US &amp; thugs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very insightful. </p>
<p>Two things. </p>
<p>There Iranian oil bourse should perhaps be taken into consideration?</p>
<p>&#8220;Saudi Arabia may have found a way to defeat the liberalized trading system for oil and to maintain high prices in periods of excess supply,&#8221;</p>
<p>You assume that this is a decision that Saudi Arabia can take. Sorry but they (Arabs) and especially Saudis are politically pathetic. They have no real say in important matters (perhaps only how they may kill each other). I hardly believe that if the US didn&#8217;t want higher price than SA wouldn&#8217;t have found any &#8220;loopholes&#8221;. This brings us to my second point. The high prices if I am not mistaken is hitting poor nations (and people, eg in US) foremost. Considering all, wouldn&#8217;t a higher oil price hurt the developing economies more than the US &amp; thugs?</p>
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