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		<title>By: Lysander</title>
		<link>http://www.raceforiran.com/from-realism-to-regime-change-questioning-richard-haass#comment-3356</link>
		<dc:creator>Lysander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I missed that vital qualification in your post...even though you put it in caps!

Cheers</description>
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<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Harrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree it&#039;s not likely. If it were likely, I wouldn&#039;t spend time writing about the need to develop sane policies toward Iran and the Middle East as a whole!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree it&#8217;s not likely. If it were likely, I wouldn&#8217;t spend time writing about the need to develop sane policies toward Iran and the Middle East as a whole!</p>
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		<title>By: Lysander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lysander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon,

I agree that hypothetically, the US *could* have a relationship of mutual respect with Iran. But in cold reality, it is not likely.

Ask yourself the following questions.

1) Is the US prepared to accept Iran as the strongest nation in the middle east? With oil, natural gas, arable land, water, strategic location with a large land mass, and a large population with many well educated scientists and technicians? That is without a doubt, Iran&#039;s potential if sanctions are lifted. Also, Iran might even have its own client state in Iraq, extending its power even further.

2) Is the US prepared to accept Iran as a nuclear power? Not necessarily with actual weapons, but with all the technology and resources to go that way at a time of their choosing.

If you believe the US is prepared to accept these things, what concessions do they want in return from Iran?

Your point about Germany not being a client state is well taken up to a point. It is clearly in Europe&#039;s interest to invest in Iran&#039;s oil and natural gas sectors so as not to be entirely dependent on Russia. Yet it does not. Why? Client states need not be as obvious as East Germany. Also, do a web search on Operation Gladio, the death of Aldo Moro to see if maybe, just maybe, the US does indeed interfere with politics of its semi-client states.

Also, The US avoids dealing with nations as equals whenever possible. As a super power it can often get away with that, but nevertheless, it is not the US&#039; choice. Why did the US distrust Putin but like Yeltsin? He dissolved the Duma with tanks after all. Not the act of a democrat.

In, summary, while the US can have relationships of equals when it needs to (Brazil, India), it prefers being in control in relationships whenever possible. It certainly demands it in the middle east where oil and Israel are involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon,</p>
<p>I agree that hypothetically, the US *could* have a relationship of mutual respect with Iran. But in cold reality, it is not likely.</p>
<p>Ask yourself the following questions.</p>
<p>1) Is the US prepared to accept Iran as the strongest nation in the middle east? With oil, natural gas, arable land, water, strategic location with a large land mass, and a large population with many well educated scientists and technicians? That is without a doubt, Iran&#8217;s potential if sanctions are lifted. Also, Iran might even have its own client state in Iraq, extending its power even further.</p>
<p>2) Is the US prepared to accept Iran as a nuclear power? Not necessarily with actual weapons, but with all the technology and resources to go that way at a time of their choosing.</p>
<p>If you believe the US is prepared to accept these things, what concessions do they want in return from Iran?</p>
<p>Your point about Germany not being a client state is well taken up to a point. It is clearly in Europe&#8217;s interest to invest in Iran&#8217;s oil and natural gas sectors so as not to be entirely dependent on Russia. Yet it does not. Why? Client states need not be as obvious as East Germany. Also, do a web search on Operation Gladio, the death of Aldo Moro to see if maybe, just maybe, the US does indeed interfere with politics of its semi-client states.</p>
<p>Also, The US avoids dealing with nations as equals whenever possible. As a super power it can often get away with that, but nevertheless, it is not the US&#8217; choice. Why did the US distrust Putin but like Yeltsin? He dissolved the Duma with tanks after all. Not the act of a democrat.</p>
<p>In, summary, while the US can have relationships of equals when it needs to (Brazil, India), it prefers being in control in relationships whenever possible. It certainly demands it in the middle east where oil and Israel are involved.</p>
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		<title>By: Cyrus</title>
		<link>http://www.raceforiran.com/from-realism-to-regime-change-questioning-richard-haass#comment-3347</link>
		<dc:creator>Cyrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the US really to show support for the Iranian people, it would start off by dropping the sanctions on the sale of civilian aircraft parts to Iran, which according to a report by the ICAO is not only contrary to international law but needlessly endangers thousands of innocent people daily. How&#039;s that for &quot;realism&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the US really to show support for the Iranian people, it would start off by dropping the sanctions on the sale of civilian aircraft parts to Iran, which according to a report by the ICAO is not only contrary to international law but needlessly endangers thousands of innocent people daily. How&#8217;s that for &#8220;realism&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Harrison</title>
		<link>http://www.raceforiran.com/from-realism-to-regime-change-questioning-richard-haass#comment-3342</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with kooshy&#039;s idea that only a client Iran is acceptable to the U.S. U.S. and Iranian interests dovetail in so many respects that a mutually beneficial relationship between equals could be worked out. On the other hand, the majority of American movers and shakers don&#039;t see things that way. So perhaps I should say that an equal partnership is THEORETICALLY possible, as well as desirable. It&#039;s also rather foolish of kooshy to refer to the U.S.&#039;s &quot;western client states.&quot; If Germany was a U.S. client state, it wouldn&#039;t be selling billions of dollars worth of stuff to Iran. This sort of hyperbole tends to vitiate your argument, which is too bad.

Although it isn&#039;t 100% of the story, it is true that the creation of Israel in 1948 warped U.S. policy toward the Middle East. General Marshall and Defense Secy. Forrestal were quite right to oppose Truman&#039;s (political) decision to recognize Israel. At some point, I hope, the American people will elect a government that thinks first of American interests. For over 60 years we have been shaping policy based on Israeli and not American goals and interests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with kooshy&#8217;s idea that only a client Iran is acceptable to the U.S. U.S. and Iranian interests dovetail in so many respects that a mutually beneficial relationship between equals could be worked out. On the other hand, the majority of American movers and shakers don&#8217;t see things that way. So perhaps I should say that an equal partnership is THEORETICALLY possible, as well as desirable. It&#8217;s also rather foolish of kooshy to refer to the U.S.&#8217;s &#8220;western client states.&#8221; If Germany was a U.S. client state, it wouldn&#8217;t be selling billions of dollars worth of stuff to Iran. This sort of hyperbole tends to vitiate your argument, which is too bad.</p>
<p>Although it isn&#8217;t 100% of the story, it is true that the creation of Israel in 1948 warped U.S. policy toward the Middle East. General Marshall and Defense Secy. Forrestal were quite right to oppose Truman&#8217;s (political) decision to recognize Israel. At some point, I hope, the American people will elect a government that thinks first of American interests. For over 60 years we have been shaping policy based on Israeli and not American goals and interests.</p>
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		<title>By: James the Hype</title>
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		<dc:creator>James the Hype</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 13:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama&#039;s True Options in Iran: Beyond War and Sanctions

Whether Obama deserved the Nobel Peace Prize or not, he was given the award because of his new approach to the Middle East, including his strategy in Iran. Military intervention is the MO if the United States, but Obama and his commanders realize that open war in Iran is NOT a viable option. However, Obama has many options on his plate, including sanctions.

Obama realizes that sanctions in the past have not worked. Sanctions in Iran, in Cuba, and even sanctions against Iraq before the 2003 invasion, have not created the results that the United States would like. The first problem is that sanctions often hurt the poor more than the regime. The second problem is that not all nations cooperate with sanctions. The third problem is that those in power have a tenacious ability to get what they want, regardless of sanctions.

Obama has a new plan. He wants to target sanctions against the Iranian Republican Guard, Hamas, and Hezbollah. He has already clamped down on smuggling operations in the area, and he believes that if he follows this up with sanctions against the elites and the military arm of the regime, he can ease the pain of the common person while weakening the regime.

Obama and Hillary Clinton have also spoken often of the importance of supporting internet and communication freedom in places like China and Iran. Senator Richard Lugar has written about the importance of social media in dictatorial regimes. Obama can use the intelligence resources of the United States to outhack Iran, allowing the people of Iran to make their own decisions about the countries future, independant from government sanctions or direct Western intervention and Imperialism.

Read more about it at: James the Hype - Dissecting the News for a Curious World
http://jamesthehype.blogspot.com/2010/01/obamas-true-options-in-iran.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama&#8217;s True Options in Iran: Beyond War and Sanctions</p>
<p>Whether Obama deserved the Nobel Peace Prize or not, he was given the award because of his new approach to the Middle East, including his strategy in Iran. Military intervention is the MO if the United States, but Obama and his commanders realize that open war in Iran is NOT a viable option. However, Obama has many options on his plate, including sanctions.</p>
<p>Obama realizes that sanctions in the past have not worked. Sanctions in Iran, in Cuba, and even sanctions against Iraq before the 2003 invasion, have not created the results that the United States would like. The first problem is that sanctions often hurt the poor more than the regime. The second problem is that not all nations cooperate with sanctions. The third problem is that those in power have a tenacious ability to get what they want, regardless of sanctions.</p>
<p>Obama has a new plan. He wants to target sanctions against the Iranian Republican Guard, Hamas, and Hezbollah. He has already clamped down on smuggling operations in the area, and he believes that if he follows this up with sanctions against the elites and the military arm of the regime, he can ease the pain of the common person while weakening the regime.</p>
<p>Obama and Hillary Clinton have also spoken often of the importance of supporting internet and communication freedom in places like China and Iran. Senator Richard Lugar has written about the importance of social media in dictatorial regimes. Obama can use the intelligence resources of the United States to outhack Iran, allowing the people of Iran to make their own decisions about the countries future, independant from government sanctions or direct Western intervention and Imperialism.</p>
<p>Read more about it at: James the Hype &#8211; Dissecting the News for a Curious World<br />
<a href="http://jamesthehype.blogspot.com/2010/01/obamas-true-options-in-iran.html" rel="nofollow">http://jamesthehype.blogspot.com/2010/01/obamas-true-options-in-iran.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jan25</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan25</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 13:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>taqieh:

if your last two sentences were directed at me, I should tell you that I was born in Iran after the revolution of 1979! indeed, I am in my late 20th!! anyhow, you can think of this minor flaw and draw the lines for you other sentences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>taqieh:</p>
<p>if your last two sentences were directed at me, I should tell you that I was born in Iran after the revolution of 1979! indeed, I am in my late 20th!! anyhow, you can think of this minor flaw and draw the lines for you other sentences.</p>
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		<title>By: taqieh</title>
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		<dc:creator>taqieh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 12:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Henry Precht gave a good start to this very short reply/comment to Richard Haass article. But after the first paragraph there is not much of substance. The only issues are not that the June election was fraudulent, nor that Iran is determined to build a nuclear weapon and not even that the regime’s opposition is close to making a second revolution. Assume all three are wrong since they may be speculative at this point. Some facts can&#039;t be disputed though. First, politically this regime is a dictatorship, second the economic prospects and financial situation of the majority of the people is terrible and third, there is a growing widespread sense of judicial injustice. Thus, even if you dismiss all specific reasons to this uprising, you must be able to realise that we are on the way for a regime change with the blessing of the US government or without, with the recommendation of Richard Hass or without that of yours and your gracious host Mr. Leverett. When a nation rises against a regime standing on the three pillars of illegitimacy, injustice and corruption, it will be very hard to stop it. The more the regime tries, the more it will have to rely on the unstable structure of these three pillars. The insignificant influence and nuisance that the monarchists or the MEK or even the state of Israel may exert and have for the past 30 years, are neither a catalyst nor the eventual reason for the downfall of the Islamic Republic. And you, sir, may very well make the same error of judgement you made 30 years ago with HIM. The only difference is that you don&#039;t risk destroying your carrer over it this time. I do hope you enjoyed our country and hospitality during your stay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Henry Precht gave a good start to this very short reply/comment to Richard Haass article. But after the first paragraph there is not much of substance. The only issues are not that the June election was fraudulent, nor that Iran is determined to build a nuclear weapon and not even that the regime’s opposition is close to making a second revolution. Assume all three are wrong since they may be speculative at this point. Some facts can&#8217;t be disputed though. First, politically this regime is a dictatorship, second the economic prospects and financial situation of the majority of the people is terrible and third, there is a growing widespread sense of judicial injustice. Thus, even if you dismiss all specific reasons to this uprising, you must be able to realise that we are on the way for a regime change with the blessing of the US government or without, with the recommendation of Richard Hass or without that of yours and your gracious host Mr. Leverett. When a nation rises against a regime standing on the three pillars of illegitimacy, injustice and corruption, it will be very hard to stop it. The more the regime tries, the more it will have to rely on the unstable structure of these three pillars. The insignificant influence and nuisance that the monarchists or the MEK or even the state of Israel may exert and have for the past 30 years, are neither a catalyst nor the eventual reason for the downfall of the Islamic Republic. And you, sir, may very well make the same error of judgement you made 30 years ago with HIM. The only difference is that you don&#8217;t risk destroying your carrer over it this time. I do hope you enjoyed our country and hospitality during your stay.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 05:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is Israel, stupid

The Obama regime is penetrated from the top to bottom with Zionists in positions to influence every strategic decision relating to Iran and Middle East policy in general.

The evidence of Zionist control is overwhelming and the consequences are deadly to any ‘balanced’ negotiations with Iran.

This regime is not prepared to open serious negotiations with Iran, or to ‘broker’ an end of Israeli occupation of Palestine.

On the contrary, their close ties with the Israel Lobby and long-term commitment to Israeli militarism and expansionist policies ensure that the Obama regime will proceed toward collaboration with the Jewish State in confrontation with Iran.

USA and Israel will not allow any country in the Middle East to challenge Israel’s supremacy in the region.

Everyone on Obama’s team supported the Israeli carnage in Gaza and endorsed Israel’s efforts to destroy the democratically elected Hamas government and prop up the discredited and corrupt Abbas.

Israel lobby control the media and the world.
  
Israel is wiping Palestine off the map and committing genocide but there is no media outcry or condemnation from the west.

No leader of the western countries is able to condemn Israel because they are frightened of the influence and the power of Israel lobby.

Ahmadinejad was the only leader who publicly condemned Israel and rightly so.

This is the main reason why he is daily demonised by the western media. Fraudulent election or nuclear weapon is only an excuse.


No matter how many nuclear bombs Israel possesses,

No matter how many war crimes Israel commits,

No matter how many women and children Israel murders.

No matter how many Palestinians, Israel makes homeless.

No matter how many UN resolutions, Israel violates,

The USA and the European countries will not impose any sanctions against Israel but they are so eager to impose sanction against Iran.

If we destroy the power of &quot;Israel lobby&quot;, not only the negotiation with Iran would be possible but also this world will be a better place to live in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is Israel, stupid</p>
<p>The Obama regime is penetrated from the top to bottom with Zionists in positions to influence every strategic decision relating to Iran and Middle East policy in general.</p>
<p>The evidence of Zionist control is overwhelming and the consequences are deadly to any ‘balanced’ negotiations with Iran.</p>
<p>This regime is not prepared to open serious negotiations with Iran, or to ‘broker’ an end of Israeli occupation of Palestine.</p>
<p>On the contrary, their close ties with the Israel Lobby and long-term commitment to Israeli militarism and expansionist policies ensure that the Obama regime will proceed toward collaboration with the Jewish State in confrontation with Iran.</p>
<p>USA and Israel will not allow any country in the Middle East to challenge Israel’s supremacy in the region.</p>
<p>Everyone on Obama’s team supported the Israeli carnage in Gaza and endorsed Israel’s efforts to destroy the democratically elected Hamas government and prop up the discredited and corrupt Abbas.</p>
<p>Israel lobby control the media and the world.</p>
<p>Israel is wiping Palestine off the map and committing genocide but there is no media outcry or condemnation from the west.</p>
<p>No leader of the western countries is able to condemn Israel because they are frightened of the influence and the power of Israel lobby.</p>
<p>Ahmadinejad was the only leader who publicly condemned Israel and rightly so.</p>
<p>This is the main reason why he is daily demonised by the western media. Fraudulent election or nuclear weapon is only an excuse.</p>
<p>No matter how many nuclear bombs Israel possesses,</p>
<p>No matter how many war crimes Israel commits,</p>
<p>No matter how many women and children Israel murders.</p>
<p>No matter how many Palestinians, Israel makes homeless.</p>
<p>No matter how many UN resolutions, Israel violates,</p>
<p>The USA and the European countries will not impose any sanctions against Israel but they are so eager to impose sanction against Iran.</p>
<p>If we destroy the power of &#8220;Israel lobby&#8221;, not only the negotiation with Iran would be possible but also this world will be a better place to live in.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan25</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan25</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 04:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have just visited Iran; Tehran and some other cities and villages. any Iranian who really really thinks that the election was a fraud is either naive and uninformed or worse a racist (I have excluded those cases who know it wasn&#039;t a fraud but for political reasons don&#039;t endorse it; one would say the outcome is the same). he/she should be so dismissive not to see such an obvious different political and cultural taste or is surrounded by like-minded people. when I talked to those of my friends who didn&#039;t accept the election result at the beginning, they have run out of the arguments within few minutes. I am surprised how disillusioned some high educated people of a nation can be. 

these days&#039; events are different stories than the election episode. I am thinking what has gone wrong with people like Richard Haass, Ray Tekeyh, Suzanne Maloney...(the presumably realists) who came to the point of believing a &quot;fraudulent election&quot;&#039; mantra like an heart heated ideologue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just visited Iran; Tehran and some other cities and villages. any Iranian who really really thinks that the election was a fraud is either naive and uninformed or worse a racist (I have excluded those cases who know it wasn&#8217;t a fraud but for political reasons don&#8217;t endorse it; one would say the outcome is the same). he/she should be so dismissive not to see such an obvious different political and cultural taste or is surrounded by like-minded people. when I talked to those of my friends who didn&#8217;t accept the election result at the beginning, they have run out of the arguments within few minutes. I am surprised how disillusioned some high educated people of a nation can be. </p>
<p>these days&#8217; events are different stories than the election episode. I am thinking what has gone wrong with people like Richard Haass, Ray Tekeyh, Suzanne Maloney&#8230;(the presumably realists) who came to the point of believing a &#8220;fraudulent election&#8221;&#8216; mantra like an heart heated ideologue.</p>
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